Khairallah Khairallah: Kurdish state will be established and Kurds know how to benefit from their experiences
05/07/2012 15:34

AMSTERDAM, July 5 (AKnews) - Lebanese writer and journalist Khairallah Khairallah said that the Kurdish state will be established and that the Kurdish people know how to benefit from their experiences, adding that this shows political maturity and a desire to adopt realism instead of slogans.

Khairallah KhairallahKhairallah said in the interview with AKnews that the dispute between Baghdad and Erbil is under control where the ruling party in Baghdad knows that it cannot go far in its demands because it is aware that it cannot be a part of open confrontation with the Kurdistan Region. On the other hand, the region will benefit from this case to reach extensive decentralization, closer to undeclared independence.

What do you think about the relationship between the government of Baghdad and that of the Kurdistan Region? Are there any fears of a war caused by the differences about the disputed territories and the sharing of oil wealth?

The relationship between the two governments is the relation of interest and the federal government recognizes the limits of its influence and the Kurdistan Regional Government recognizes that it must build the future of Kurdistan without raising a lot of sensitivities. From this standpoint, it seems that the differences between the two sides are under control. The time factor is in the favor of the Kurds so why would they create problems and participate in political confrontations that have no future? What is the point of that?

What is your assessment of the democratic experiment in Iraq?

The democratic experiment in Iraq is at its beginnings. It's like a crawling baby. Will the day come for this experience to be able to stand up? There is hope but it is very little for a very simple reason, that is the experience of democracy cannot succeed in the presence of religious parties that have militias of their own. Unfortunately the Iraqi society is in a state of decline at all levels. The Baathist family system established by the Saddam Hussein's regime affected deeply the Iraqi society. The social problem is currently the biggest problem that has plagued Iraq if we exclude the Kurdish regions, which knew how to keep themselves away from religious and sectarian strife that Iraq suffered from.

Iraqi-Arab relations are still tense. How can they be improved?

Nothing is clear in the whole region so how would it be in a very complex issue like Iraqi-Arab relations? Arab-Iraqi relations are normal. This is due to several factors, notably Sunni-Shia interactions in Iraq and abroad and Iranian influence in this country. We can say that Iran is the primary beneficiary of the US invasion of Iraq, it is the only victor in this war. Was the victory of Iran against the Iraqi people? Can it be considered a victory?

Iraq currently lacks balance and identity under the influence of Iran, and the Arabs are lost and can only see the Iranian danger that threatens them. Arabs have the right to exaggerate about the Iranian threat, given that Iran is using the sectarian weapon in its attempt to destabilize the security of certain Arab countries, especially in the Gulf region. At the end of the fall of Bahrain under the Iranian influence threatened Saudi security directly and this is what cannot be accepted by the kingdom or nearby countries. It's an issue of life or death for Saudi Arabia and Gulf Arab states.

In addition, there is still a need for a long period of time for Arabs to understand exactly what is going on in Iraq and for Iraqis to recognize the ways that must be adopted to improve the relationship with other Arabs rather than the Baghdad government implementing the instructions of the Iranian authorities.

There is an Iranian influence on the course of events in Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, and at the same time some are seeking to ignore this influence rather than interacting with it. What is the right way, in your opinion, to deal with it in the best interests of Arabs?

There is no doubt that the Iranian influence is based in Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. Without Iraq there would have been no government led by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki in Iraq and the Baathist regime would have fallen in Syria a long time ago. As for Beirut, it is under Iranian occupation. This is applied to several Lebanese areas that turned into security islands controlled by Hezbollah, which the Lebanese consider to be part of Iran's Revolutionary Guards.

The Arabs, unfortunately, have only one option which is confrontation with Iran. This confrontation begins with steadfastness and revealing the truth of the Iranian project. If Iran had accepted negotiation and openness with Arabs it wouldn't have kept the occupation of three UAE islands since 1971. Is there a nice occupation of the Arab land because it is an Iranian occupation and a hateful one that is the Israeli occupation?

How do you see the future of events in Syria?

The regime in Syria is over. Is it normal that one family that belongs to a small community governs for over four decades, under the "resistance" and "objection" slogans? The question is how will the end of the regime come about? There are fears that the longer the crisis continues, the more division may occur in the country. The problem of Syria since its independence is the problem of entity and it turned into a problem of regime and entity at the same time. The development of events are heading towards the deterioration of the Syrian entity.

You wrote "when it comes to oil and oil reserves and the future of an important region of the world such as the Gulf region, Iran must take its natural size". Is this happening or is Iran expanding its influence?

It is apparent that the Iranian regime learned nothing from the experiences of others, including the experience of Saddam Hussein in 1990 who occupied Kuwait without being aware of the results of occupying an oil country.

The Gulf region is an important area for the whole world and Iran cannot control the wealth of the region and that of Iraq. Iran is not a superpower, it doesn't have the superpower elements. It lives on the revenues of oil and doesn't have alternatives to oil. When the Iranian regime plays its required role in the field of intimidating the Gulf states and forcing it to buy large quantities of weapons, the major countries, mainly the United States, will take the necessary measures to return Iran to its normal size.

Do you see the features of a Kurdish state in the future? And when can it be achieved?

The Kurdish state will be established. Only the Kurds do not want to recognize it in these days. The Kurds are people who know how to benefit from their experiences. The Kurdish citizens do not need slogans, they need work, education and bread first.

Some believe that the region is on the verge of a Sunni-Shiite conflict, an alternative to the Arab-Israeli conflict. The two main players are Sunni Turkey and Shiite Iran. What do you think about this?

Anything can happen in the region. There is a Sunni-Shiite conflict dominating now and all that has to do with the Palestinian issue. Arabs lie when they say that Palestine is still their first case. Palestine is still the issue of the Palestinians alone and this reality cannot be ignored. But the question remains - what is the future of Iran? When will the presence of its regime end?

As for Turkey, I do not think it will participate in a Shiite-Sunni conflict with Iran. The Turks are much more aware and know the weaknesses and strengths of the Iranian regime and prefer to avoid direct confrontation with it, at least in the present time.

By Adnan Abu Zaid