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  1. #21

    Re: Could This Be Our Month?... It Is the 7th Month...

    Good Afternoon Kblp..

    Satan works through Babylon via materialism, socialism, Communism, and the various ism's that exist in our world... That is what is in the very cup that this system propagates... The devil made God his adversary when iniquity was found in him... (Ezekiel chapter 28 verses 11-19 declare his coveting of that which was not his to do so in the first place)... Since then he has used this spirit of rebellion to appeal to mankind's vanity via various deceptive tactics... Daughters of Babylon (Satan) in that he has used various means to affect mankind spiritually... Which in time manifests itself in the flesh in the form of sinful behavior.. Lucifer is the mother of harlots, and is also holds the title of the father of lie's...

    What is going on in Iraq right now, and the significance behind it, is Satan declaring to his Creator, "Stick in your ear.. I know this is in direct defiance to You, and I don't care."... That is why I find it very ironic, and telling that a significant piece of what the devil is building is taking place in this area of the world... The very area where this fallen one tried, through King Nimrod, to build the first One World Empire... Not too long after our Creator had flooded the earth mind you... It did not take many individual's to develop this same spirit of anarchy against their Creator... Guess the flooding of the world did not place fear in them in the long term... Time certainly is an ally for deceit as it pertains to the devil, and his influence within mankind's affairs.. But we have no one else to blame but ourselves if we make the decision to transgress the God's commandments when they are known...

    At that point in humanities history, at the very tower of Babel, God would have had every right to destroy those in defiance of HIM... But instead, in HIS MERCY, God separated these people's, via languages, and allowed them to carry on... Their dreams of building an empire, apart from God, were dashed at that point...

    But again, and again Satan has tried to once again bring forth a kingdom that would rule the world... Through the various empires that have existed throughout the centuries.. Egypt, Assyrian, Babylon, Persia, Greco-Macedonian, Roman, and the one that is now being allowed by God to come to power during our day... This 7th one is going to be successful... But only for a short time... I can understand why, with the technology that does exist, God would only allow for this 7th empire to exist for only a short period...

    But it all begins from within all of the inhabitants of the earth, and Satan uses God's resources (as if they were his, which they are not), to entice, manipulate, and cause mankind to become spiritually drunk through sinful behavior...

    So yes, scripture does point out what is going on in the land formerly known as Shinar, is being used for an event that will prove to be a wealth maker for the merchants of the earth... (see Revelation chapters 17, and 18)... God uses symbolism within HIS WORD, and wants us to discern what is transpiring in our world, while connecting the dots to see what is being fulfilled...

    I am sorry you are not seeing it that way Kblp... But it is quite clear to me, and other brethren what is happening... We are living in a time unlike any other in mankind's history... A time that will never be again as Jesus Christ HIMSELF pointed out...

    This event in Iraq will indeed be a vital key into bringing the world under an order that is one from an economic standpoint... God refers to the one that Babylon rides as the beast... And as Daniel chapter 7 points out this beast that Satan rides is destructive.. (see verses 23-25)... We see it has been changing the very structure of this world we live in beginning in the late 1700's to our day... Revolution's have taken place in order to replace old order's with new ones... All in the name of freedom...

    While nation's have experienced freedom no doubt, we see that humanity is falling into the same snare that Satan has laid time, and time again throughout our history... Freedom becomes a licence to sin, and the results are always the same... Only this time we do have the technology to destroy all life on earth... Which is why our Creator did not allow for this progress to be made until the last century plus as it pertains to the industrial revolution.. Mankind can be very dangerous when not in the proper spiritual frame of mind... Does Satan care?... Of course not!... A nuke, or chemical weapon is not going to end his life... Only God can destroy him, and of course his Creator has held this fallen entity back for centuries from doing even more harm..

    But again the devil's success is based on our sinful behavior... Simply because our transgressions separate us from the love of God, and HIS influence within our lives on a personal level... And the wages of practicing sin is death as Romans chapter 6 verse 23 points out...

    So we see Babylon being allowed by God to be built to the fullest extent this time, as the 7th, and last empire to exist before the 2nd coming of the Lord Jesus Christ... Only this time HIS return will be to destroy Babylon, and the beast that Satan will give his authority to for a 3, and one half period... (see Revelation chapter 13 verses 2, and 4)...

    Ancient Babylon (now Iraq) is definitely being used as a launching point for something very significant as it pertains to God's prophetic Word... It will surely make the merchants of the world rich.. And it has been through wealth that many faithful people have fallen from grace... So those invested in this venture will definitely have to be on guard, and be guided by the Spirit of God... Those who believe on HIM through Jesus Christ...

    It will be a test... For as Christine Lagarde declared, there is to be 7 years of strong economic growth beginning at some point... That 7 year period has not began yet... Which again is why she used the numerology to give us a clue as to what to look for, and what number to emphasize while using this method... This was from her own words, and actions as the video has shown...

    Take care, and peace be with you... And GO RV...

    Popeye7
    Last edited by popeye7; 07-18-2016 at 09:59 PM.



  2. #22

    Re: Could This Be Our Month?... It Is the 7th Month...

    Hello Popeye7,

    I'm in lockstep agreement with everything you just said, until you get to the last paragraph.
    You've clearly stated on numerous occasions nobody knows the timing and I agree with that as well. Your last paragraph however strays from what is scripturally clear in that, Lagarde wouldn't know the timing either, and your saying that a lopless revalue of the Iraqi dinar will be the vehicle or direct byproduct of the financial rise of Babylon. Believe it or not, a lopless revalued dinar is not the only way Babylon can rise to financial power. This is where you've gone astray from scripture and added your own spin on it time and time again.

    The dinar at its current value isn't worthless as nearly everyone repeatedly claims either. Lay a billion or a trillion of it on me and I can very quickly show you how not worthless it is. But I digress, the point is as I've said many times before, you go from what is scripturally accurate and true to a point...then you go spinning off somewhere into Popeye7 lala land by concluding that scripture is stating there will be an Iraqi dinar RV that will make all of the million plus dinar currency holders wealthy. You simply don't know that to be true and you certainly can't prove it through scripture. If you could you would have already done so. Instead, you quote multiple paragraphs of scripture that are sound....and tuck in your own spin to make the case that your assumption is correct. That's bad juju Popeye7, adding your own spin as if it's part of the scripture...again, bad juju. And really, even though I can respect some of what you say, and some of what I assume your intent is...really, you should know better Popeye7, and in all honesty I believe you do. I think you're just so caught up in this that you've allowed yourself to stray to a place you shouldn't have. If I'm correct in that, you're one of the least guilty RV pumpers I've encountered. But no matter your intentions, you're still guilty of pumping it and trying to spin it into the scriptures. You've probably heard the saying that the road to hell is paved with good intentions?

    Maybe I'll turn out to be the one who's wrong and if so I'll readily and unashamedly admit it loudly and clearly. In the meantime I'm standing firmly on my faith and on what I know to be correct scripturally, as well as what I know to be correct with regard to monetary policy. Neither of which prove or strongly indicate that the dinar will ever RV without a lop. Now if everyone here did that...stood on what truth exists, and didn't add they're spin, this website wouldn't even exist and I'm pretty sure you would agree with that as well, along with a lot of others here. But that isn't going to happen and we both know why...dinar goggles supersede all good sense for most and that's a shame for more reasons than one.

    As far as I'm concerned our debate is over unless you have some facts to bring forth which fill the holes I've pointed out. That doesn't mean I won't continue to comment or call out yours or anyone else's comments when they go astray of the truth. It simply means my purpose isn't to bash you. Make no mistake, my convictions are strong and my purpose is clear and relentless.

  3. #23

    Re: Could This Be Our Month?... It Is the 7th Month...

    Hello Kblp and Others Who Are Reading This Post..

    Well, now that we have that cleared up... There are certain things that occur in our lives as individual believers that can only be understood by those have been shown it from within at a certain point in time... I can only attempt to explain to you why I believe what Christine L. declared as being significant...

    God declared Noah in Genesis chapter 6 that mankind would have 120 years to repent before the flood... Therefore Noah knew if mankind failed do as God wanted, the year was revealed as to when the flood would occur... During that 120 year period there were many events that occurred that were signs to those who were privy to God's message.. It has been revealed in ancient manuscripts that Noah's grandfather Mathusaleh help to spread the word of the need to repent... Noah's grandfather died 7 days before the flood as the book of Jasher indicates.. This book is mentioned twice in scripture.. In the book of Joshua, and 2 Samuel I believe... Just it being mentioned means that God had some information that would be useful to us.. If for a historical reference only...

    Here is the link to the book of Jasher... Chapters 5, and 6 are the period of time that are important as it pertains to revealing what occurred during the time of Noah.. http://www.minyakanginaromatherapy.c...f%20Jasher.pdf

    That book goes into greater detail the days of Noah, and what went on before, and after the flood... Noah lived 950 years... He was 600 years old when the flood occurred... Which of course means he lived 350 years after... The man saw a lot obviously during that 950 year period he was allowed to live...

    It is revealed in scripture that Noah was in the ark for 7 days before the flooding process began... During that 7 day period, the book of Jasher revealed that our Creator allowed for quite a bit of turmoil in order to wake the inhabitants up from their spiritual situation... Well, we know that only 8 persons survived the flood... At the end of the 7 day period, God brought judgment upon the inhabitants of the earth... This 7 day period is significant as it parallels the 7 year tribulation that will occur sometime yet future... It will be a 7 year period in which those who are alive will be granted a time to repent before judgment comes... That judgment will occur upon the blowing of the 7th, and last trumpet, and the return of Jesus Christ as HE will bring down Babylon, and the kingdom of the beast...

    Our Savior declared it would be as in the days of Noah... The number 7 has always had significant meaning within scripture... When I viewed that video of Christine L. my ears perked up, and I knew that what she was saying was going to be significant to God's purpose's... As we are in the midst of that 120 year period right now... Jesus said it would be as it was during the time of Noah before HIS imminent return... Which is why it was written for us to heed that as drew near to the end of the age, that 120 year period would apply to this generation as well...

    If my calculations are correct, that 120 year period (a time that Jesus Christ declared that there would be wars, and rumors of wars... A time of uncertainty) began in Dec. of 2013... When the Federal Reserve was born here in the US when then President Woodrow Wilson signed it into law during the Christmas break for Congress... He admitted later that he had basically handed over US sovereignty to a foreign entity... Those who control the money supply... Anyway, it was through this banking entity that World War 1 was funded.. That war of course began in 1914...

    There have been very significant events that have taken place, especially during the last 50 years, during the year within each decade that ended in 3... In 1963 President Kennedy was assassinated... Prayer was taken out of public school, and it was the beginning of the Rock and Roll era... This also began the free love movement as well where sexual immorality increased dramatically... Which of course lead to Roe Vs. Wade being made law by the Supreme Court in 1973...

    1983 began another period of change from a cultural standpoint as well...

    1993 the first attempt of bringing down the World Trade Center occurred... The Waco situation, and of course the beginning of the Clinton Presidency...

    2003 the War in Iraq began, and Saddam was ousted as Iraqi's leader...

    In 2013 Prince George Alexander was born (the 7th George He could very well play a key role in prophecy)... The year 2013 was also the 100th anniversary of the enactment of the Federal Reserve Act.. Also year 100 for I believe to be the 120 year period as scripture indicates...

    OK.. Now we are in the year 2016... Which is 7 years from 2023 (again the year ending in 3)... Will this be the year that the 7 year period of strong economic growth occurs.. Christine L. never indicated why she felt there would be 7 years of a strong economy, and again how did she know this.. And another question I have is what is going to happen after this 7 year period of time from an economic standpoint?... Hmmmmm....

    The west is dying due to rampant, and escalating immoral behavior... Will this 7 year period be the Western World's, US included, as the leader of the world as it concerns the economy... Will 2023 (which will be year 110 of the 120 year period), be a year of great upheaval... We see signs of the emergence of economies of the East rising.. With China leading the way... Last year I read an article about the IMF relocated their headquarters from Washington to China at some point... Why would they want to do that unless there was a changing of the guard so to speak...

    In Matthew chapter 24 our Savior declares that this war, and rumor of wars period would be the beginning of sorrows... But the end would not be yet... After this period, there would be tribulation... I believe that after this 120 year period of sorrow, the 7 year tribulation will begin... This will bring us to the year 2033... 33 is a very significant number to those who place their faith in numbers...

    The first 3, and a half period would be tribulation (Matthew chapter 24 verse 9)... After this period of time of 3, and one half years, there will then be GREAT tribulation as verses 15-21 of Matthew chapter 24 indicate.. Here is a link to Matthew chapter 24... https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...4&version=NKJV

    For the saints of God who are alive during this 7 year period, it will be a time of great persecution as indicated within this chapter as well as other passages...

    Remember that our Savior declared that we would not know the day, or hour of his return... HE never said that the year would not be revealed... He declared to Noah the year the flood would begin... But God never told Noah the exact hour it would occur...

    There are times granted the saints throughout history to prepare both physically, and even more importantly spiritually, for times that will be trying... Of course during trying times, there can be growth if one responds to trials, and testing in the way our Father in heaven would want us to...

    On the flip side, during times when things are going great in the flesh, it is very easy for one to become complacent, and neglect one's calling from God...

    We are in the midst of this 120 year period IMHO... Which is in fulfillment of God's prophetic Word.. So during this time there will be times of joy, but as scripture declares sorrow as well... It is imperative that during our life span within this 120 year period, and beyond, we look for clues for what to prepare for... Again from both a spiritual, and physical standpoint...

    That is why I believe what is occurring in Iraq is very significant... In many ways!... And why we must stay alert to these events as well as warning one another, while encouraging our brethren in God's eternal Word...

    The number 7 means completion as well... Will 2023 be the end of the West's domination in the world's affairs... The US included... Will the next 7 years (again beginning at some point this year possibly) be such a time of economic prosperity that it will give many a false sense of security... Once the proverbial rug is pulled out, and many in the West are in shock, and disillusioned?... Something to think about...

    Hope that helps in letting you know where I am coming from Kblp... And of course others who may be reading this...

    God bless, and take care..

    Popeye7

    God bless, and HIS kingdom that is surely to come is humanities only hope...

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    Last edited by popeye7; 07-19-2016 at 04:16 AM.

  4. #24

    Re: Could This Be Our Month?... It Is the 7th Month...

    Well now that we have that cleared up? My repayment for politely and ever so slightly easing up on you just a bit? Fair enough I suppose.

    Your reasoning is certainly thoughtful and I can see why you've made the connections you have. Might you be correct in your timing prediction? You certainly may. I would note that objectively viewing history would present decades ending in any number held events one could point to as being significant if one chose to, so I wouldn't give it a concrete stamp of acceptance. Having said that, I don't agree or disagree with your timing because I simply and honestly can't back either in concrete terms, and I don't believe anyone could, or would even be permitted that luxury. However, from what I do know for certain, and from my gut feeling derived from those certainties, I'd agree that your time frame for the scriptural events you've just laid out is within the ball park. The size of that ball park is...again I don't think anyone here has that exact information. Given that it's relative to a timeline of less than certainty we could be off by a year...a decade...a century...more, or less? Just keeping it all in perspective as you like to say.

    As much as I enjoy this part of the discussion, and I honestly do, we're both guilty of digressing from the fulcrum of it which is the claim of an eventual Iraqi dinar RV that will create wealth for the average currency holder. Nothing has been presented, by anyone, that soundly lays out how it's even realistically possible. And nobody, has presented even a hint of anything concrete as proof. Do we just take it on faith because scripture foretells the rise of Babylon? That would be a very large leap of undocumented faith which isn't supported by scripture except in the periphery of individual opinion and I don't believe you can honestly disagree with the point. Nor do I believe you'd disagree that scriptures don't always manifest in the way we expect them to.

    I give you credit though, you appear to be sincerely trying and I don't fault you for that. You also conceded having a humble opinion on something not set in concrete this time rather than stating it to be so. I'm impressed. But, I pray you don't abuse the right to a humble opinion by stating IMHO following a multitude of unfounded claims as so many here are given to do. It isn't a license to trample the truth as happens here with great frequency.

    Thanks for breaking it down and keeping this last exchange within the boundaries of reason. It's sincerely appreciated.

    Peace be with you Popeye7
    Last edited by Kblp; 07-19-2016 at 04:34 AM.

  5. #25

    Re: Could This Be Our Month?... It Is the 7th Month...

    I want to clarify something... Babylon is a spiritual system of governance used by Satan to deceive the nations.. Remember that the "woman" sits on many waters.. Waters, in this particular part of scripture, symbolizes the peoples of various nations... While the nations have certainly made Iraq their focal point for the last 3 plus decades for a very important reason... What occurs within this nation as it pertains to what has been orchestrated by the powers that be from an economic standpoint, will serve as a catalyst for this 7 year period of strong growth from an economic standpoint as Christine L. pointed out IMHO... There was a reason the currency of this nation was artificially devalued... Only to be used for a greater purpose later on...

    The timing of of this will be as it has been orchestrated to be.. Only it has been made to look like that it has not been... There are those behind the scenes that are truly in control.. Most are just pawns in the game... But in fulfillment of God's Word of course... Simply because HE has ultimate control...

    But the mother of harlots, or this Babylonian system was created by Satan for the sole purpose of ruling over God's creation.. Something that he has coveted for a very long time... Again this final empire he is in the process of building will by the one that fulfills the 7th head of the beast he rides, and controls... This final empire will be comprised of the world separated into 10 regions with 10 kings ruling over them... 10 little empires within an empire which Satan has ultimate authority of... Daniel chapter 7 verses 23, and 24 describe these kings coming to power within this kingdom. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...7&version=NKJV Here is a link to Revelation chapter 17... Verses 9 through 13 declare that these 10 kings will give their authority to the beast... They then will be given authority by the beast simply because Satan has given his authority to the beast... Authority to rule over this 7th kingdom.. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...7&version=NKJV

    Jerusalem will become the focal point as we enter into the 7 year tribulation period... But at some point between now, and when the 7 year tribulation starts, this empire will emerge... There are going to have to be some extremely dramatic changes that transpire in order for nations to give up their sovereignty... Another world war could very well occur in order to break the nations, and for them to surrender to a one world government comprised of these 10 regions being ruled by 10 kings... Jerusalem will be the spiritual center in all of this as scripture points out... See Revelation chapter 11... Here is a link to this chapter... https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...n+11&version=N

    In time, and once this empire has been established, the man of sin will emerge on the world scene as our Creator God allows... In response to a great falling away, and a sinful condition that will dominate the world at large this title certainly will represent those who will worship this individual who the bible also refers to as the beast... Here is the link to 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...1&version=NKJV

    Eventually Satan will give his authority over this 7th, and final kingdom to the beast, or man of sin... Revelation chapter 13 verse 2, and 4 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...3&version=NKJV

    This human being, and king will be powerful because of being possessed by a fallen entity whose name is Abaddon in the Hebrew, or Apollyon in the Greek tongue.. His name means destroyer, and at this point in time is imprisoned in the bottomless pit until the blowing of the 5 trumpet of God's angel signaling his release.. Revelation chapter 9 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...9&version=NKJV
    As scripture also points out the power this mere man will possess is not his own. Daniel chapter 8 verses 23 through 26... Here is a link to the chapter.. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...8&version=NKJV

    What is going on in Iraq, while important to bible prophecy, is only a piece of a puzzle that has other pieces to ensure it is complete, and the picture is clear... God gives us a summary through symbolism through the prophets... We look upon the events occurring in our world to see HIS WORD come to life, and fulfill that which HE foretold would happen long ago...

    Take care, and God bless you all...

    Popeye7

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    Last edited by popeye7; 07-23-2016 at 06:40 PM.

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